I feel like theres going to be some surprising non-tenders this offseason in teams efforts to save some money. I realize that you are desperate to see the Yanks in a financial squeeze. 2.) I think if you can trade Bryant and hopefully still land a quality prospect in return you have to do it.
I believe if the Cubs make Marquez a center piece then they can land Merrifield as much as I do not want to deal Marquez. 1. If the Cubs want to do a mini rebuild, trading Rizzo would bring back the most for a one year rental. Matt Swartz has created a model to project salaries for arbitration eligible players, which weve been publishing at MLB Trade Rumors for ten years.
They cannot keep Schwarber, Rizzo, Baez, Bryant, and Contreras all together on the same team and have financial flexibility to patch holes where needed. the Cubs have to reset the luxury tax penalties. With Betts entering arbitration with the rare combination of 78 career home runs and 80 stolen bases thus far in his young career, the arbitration model may exaggerate that combined effect. This is the seventh year weve done these projections, and Im proud to present the results for 2018. Amazing information as always. What is another championship worth to you? What makes you think hes worth that much? Every team needs to reset the luxury tax from time to time, the current CBA ensures that given the harshness of the penalties. The MLBPA started these CBA talks at a position of making all 2+ players eligible for arbitration, which had been the case from the inception of salary arbitration in 1973 up until 1985. He reminds me a lot of Jorge Soler with more upside defensively. I watched him play his entire career countless games and IMO he is worthy. They have nearly 45mil off the books with Lester and Quintana.
Just saying theyve spent more money on partnerships with draft kings than the actual team. A campaign by the Red Sox got the malcontent Rice elected. The arbitration projections were originally published 10-11-21. According to his service time, hes still arb eligible.
Additional information was added 2-17-22. He stunk this year, but it was such an unusual season.
Yankees get: Schwaber and Perez and Others (maybe Staumont?) Signed for $1.725MM prior to NT deadline, John Brebbia (4.078) $1.0MM. HR hitters are streaky, so the impact positively and negatively from a 60-game season can be extreme. As explained here, Matt Swartz and MLB Trade Rumors have developed an accurate model to project arbitration salaries.
He has a fantastic fastball but his secondary pitches and control are troubling. Nwogu I believe is going to be a flat out stud! Gotta be Schwarber for Contreras and 2 more just to keep theo and jed on the phone. Not worth it. So Im guessing you reject the saberstat case for Dewey belonging in the HOF?! As theyre rumored to be interested. Last night, we kicked off the series with Manny Machados arbitration breakdown. Spending over 8 million on Pham, who was recently stabbed, May not be a luxury the Padres can afford when you look at the holes that need filled. Only 40-man players are eligible for arb.
By itself, MLB might be willing to stomach something of that nature.
3. Theyre horrible in developing pitchers. Dorothys concern is heartwarming.
The model tends to notice that having solid numbers in multiple statistical categoriescan aggregate up to a larger effect than the sum of its parts, but this can also lead tooverly aggressive projections in some cases. I think the Cubs should consider trading Darvish, as his value will NEVER be higher than right now, as well as trading Bryant and Schwarber, recouping some value before these guys walk (or the Cubs show them the door, if they repeat their performance from 2020). That said, there also werent many big changes made to the arb process under the new CBA, as the league refused to even discuss the standards relating to the amount of service time required to gain salary arbitration, or even to the players desire for a large increase in the number of Super Two-eligible players. Excellent work on these lists year in and year out. MLBTR has *always* been really accurate with their arb estimates.
You only hit 10 home runs this season would be seen by an impartial arbiter as a ridiculous argument seeing as it wasnt a full season and wouldve projected out to 27 homers over the course of a normal 162 game slate. San Diego specifically got him because he was controlled through 21. To suggest the Cubs have not done jack is wrong, last I checked they won the central this year. Option two is highest value, makes sense. Signed for $1.025MM prior to NT deadline, Andrew Stevenson (2.127) $900K. Stock Schwarber could and should bring in at least 4 players. Golden Spikes award Cubs need to cut payroll to make proper additions to the roster-KK has a 9 million AAV. 2. So, Matt has developed an algorithm to project arbitration salaries that looks at the players playing time, position, role, and performance statistics while accounting for inflation. The only way they trade him during season instead of non-tender, is if they are trying to get players for him. Darvish is their ace. Mike Soroka isnt arbitration-eligible yet, 1 year, 146 days of service time. Ownership has invested heavily in all aspects of the Cubs, they have a top five payroll in baseball they are footing the bill to renovate Wrigley, they built a baseball academy in the DR, they have one of, if not the highest paid front offices in baseball, they spend heavily on player development and scouting, they paid to develop a pitch lab What part of that equates to cheap? The performance of comparable players matters, but our system is not directly selecting comps for each individual player. : -). The player is in the room for the arguments, and the teams hardline stance means the battle can be over as little as $100K. Right now, his inconsistency and ability to throw strikes puts him in Dillion Maples area, not Josh Hader. Arbitration Projection Model MLBTR Originals Newsstand. If you see any inaccuracies or have questions, please leave a comment or contact us. Phillies dont have anyone the cubs need. Cashman wanted Schwarber and Glayber Torres for Chapman. Above average in the field. I think hes a better hitter than Realmuto and if/when MLB moves to the automated strike zone, his pitch framing will become irrelevant. Signed for $1.325MM prior to NT deadline, Austin Adams (3.015) $1.0MM. The offense is broke and the 15-20 million they have available is not going to be enough fix it. Tom Ricketts doesnt have that much bread.
No hed get at least one top prospect. In all likelihood, Betts end up closer to Machados $5MM, but somewhat extra for the stronger career totals. His $2.83MM salary is well short of where Betts will end up. as of right now, 2021 is our last shot at a title. To calculate how much additional money MLB teams would be paying under this system in 2022, I found the difference between the projected arbitration salary, and a hypothetical $700K minimum. Photo courtesy of USA Today Sports Images. If nationals are rebuilding- be a good season to shop turner. From the comments here, it feels like there is a lot of under-estimation on Bryant. Nick Pivetta, no However, since hearings wont take place until after Opening Day, some players will begin the season not knowing that theyll exactly be earning, thus creating a very unusual situation and adding another wrinkle to a process that already lends itself to awkwardness. This winter, due to the pandemic and 60-game MLB season, theres more uncertainty than ever with arbitration, as I explained here. By Tim Dierkes | October 9, 2018 at 1:49pm CDT. Add these to the players listed above: Players removed from 40-man: I also wonder how many of these cases will settle prior to a hearing, and whether or not we see an uptick or down tick in the number of cases settled. These type of players dont walk in the door every day. Im not arguing for or against Evans. Why? For the Cubs, meaning KB and Javy as examples, will receive larger raises than expected. Im sorry but there are no rings for playoff appearances or bragging rights about little you spent to get there. The big question is how do they handle Voit. Making this a total of 15 arbitracional players. Edwards is faster and younger. Edwards and Baz both should be ready in 2022 at about the same time Davis, Marquez, and Amaya will be ready. The first is Francisco Lindor. The last time a player entered arbitration with both 60homers and 60 steals inhis career was 2010, when Matt Kemp did it. To project the entire arbitration class in this way would take a massive amount of time and effort. 3. By Mark Polishuk | March 10, 2022 at 4:42pm CDT. Your attempt at undermining the opinion of another was ruined when you state a false fact in your first paragraph. Yes cubs have are top 5 in payroll and the last 2 years theyve down jacks*** . The entire farm is littered with guys throw mid to upper 90s. Service time data in this post is now official. He says the agreement is that 2020 stats wont count towards the arbitration process at all and the figures will be done using their prior numbers. I believe that the Astros will non-tender Devenski and Osuna. I choose not to rely on saberstats. What about the interesting case of Daniel Bard?
. I strongly doubt the Cubs will non-tender Bryant but given the payroll uncertainty I dont think its completely without discussion. In its most recent proposal, the Major League Baseball Players Association asked that 80% of players with at least two years of MLB service be considered arbitration eligible. I know no one wants to give up potentially elite prospects for established players but you have to look at the championship window, the needs of the team and the fit of a player. As you and all cubs fans know. Royals: get Garcia or Schmidt, Hoerner and more. The tracker is currently up-to-date for all 191 arbitration eligible players, including numbers for those who have settled on their 2020 salary. AZPhil, at TheCubReporter, whos extremely knowledgeable on these sorts of things and hangs out on the Cubs backfields in Arizona talking to Cubs personnel all the time, says otherwise. The argument was between two other people near his car. 6. Layer But who else do the Yankees have?
Theyre also going to have Chatwood, Lester ($10 million buyout), and Quintana coming off the books, another $35 million. 1.) Maybe trade Schwarber to the Yankees for RHP Roansy Contreras? Theres no formula that gets Judge from $8M to $15M. If I had to wager a Coke, Id think they offer him arbitration with no plan to go long-term until they see if he rebounds. The latter player was Drew Stubbs, but his .213 platform average and .241 career average, along with just 14 of those home runs coming in his platform season, combine to make him a poor comparable. About the same salary to Carlos Correa, Eddy Rosario, Javy Baez, Aaron Judge and Jose Berrios? He has one year of a WAR > 1.8. To paraphrase Dean Wormer, the chances of Bryant or Sanchez being non-tendered based on 2020s 60-game season: 0.0. Many cases may end up getting resolved in a hearing room. Its not just this year, but arbitration numbers build yearly, never decreasing, so this will impact players and teams for a number of years. For the Brewers you are missing Jace Peterson who is in the third year of arbitration. Mookie Betts brings a rare combination of speed and power to his first year of arbitration eligibility, making his case a tricky one to project. The Super Two cutoff has been announced as 2.134. The Ricketts are cheap. Whut Merrifield isnt worth Marquez, Amaya and Nico Hoerner. Cubs get; Merrifield that is about it. Also, there is no way in hell Tommy Pham gets non-tendered. Same with Sanchez, though Sanchez is not nearly as consistent as Bryant.
Lindor went through arbitration three times, earning salaries of $10.55MM in 2019, $17.5MM in 2020, and $22.3MM in 2021, for a total of $50.35MM. No way Schwartber gets non-tendered, not at roughly 8 million and based on his advanced stats. I think the Cubs let Lester go but attempt to add an upside third starter, Im thinking a guy like Arrieta, Anthony DeSclafani, Minor, Paxton, Odorizzi, Ray basically guys that struggled but could provide value on investment and wont kill us on payroll Maybe the Cubs go after Stroman if his price is down but if I were the Mets, I would hang him with a QO. Where is that cutoff? I love Baez at around 20 million per season as we saw this year.. that is kind of his floor, poor batting average and on base but is still going to drive in runs, still make amazing plays at short stop, and he will still make dynamic, game changing plays. Will it really be a lot more or more in line with past seasons? I guess 4 player is pushing it. I wouldnt mind Jeffress to return though.
Aybar. And He was a hot head. Its a must do for next season. The game is hard to play and everyone deserves the benefit of the doubt.
The rays have a small payroll. In 2019, he led the majors with an average exit velocity of 96 MPH. So, Matt has developed an algorithm to project arbitration salaries that looks at the players playing time, position, role, and performance statistics while accounting for inflation. Thats nice. I just dont know the Cubs have the pieces to make a trade, will likely need to bring a 3rd team in due to Cubs lack of young pitching in the minors that are worth anything and Royals have said in the past they want close to MLB ready pitching in any deal. If all they are going to get is salary relief, why would they not just non-tender him, since they would get even more relief? The number in parentheses next to each player is his estimated Major League service time (Years.Days) through 2017 (172 days constitutes a full year of Major League service, per the collective bargaining agreement).
The Cubs need to change their offensive approach and dynamic. You know what else the Cubs cannot do? Do you realize that even though they have 45 coming off the books, a large portion of that is going to be reinvested into arbitration raises AND they are nearly 8 million over the luxury tax already. Signed for $675K prior to NT deadline, Rowdy Tellez (3.004) $1.9MM. Judge is another whos numbers are loaded heavily on his earliest work. They should be great back of the bullpen guys. They are not predicting near that for Gary or Judge. What the poster of the comments about Judge I will leave others who watch NYY to decide. Golden Glove 8 times. Signed for $1.5MM prior to NT deadline, Paul Fry (3.075) $1.1MM. That just brings my mind back to May and June and how it seriously looked like we might not have a season. For this exercise, well use a minimum salary of $700K. Signed for $1.3MM prior to NT deadline, Jharel Cotton (3.052) $1.2MM. Trade some of these guys for prospects; keep Baez, Rizzo, Hendricks, Happ, Heyward, Contreras (though you could get a lot for him too); and retool this team for 2022. Since 2018, hes led the majors in hard-hit ball % and was second to Yelich in HR/FB %. Hanley Ramirez also did in 2009. Signed for $1.825MM prior to NT deadline, Jandel Gustave (3.027) $800K. Are you guys absolutely SURE they didnt come to an agreement on how arbitration would be handled? Was Bryant mailing it in due to a bit of a bitter contract negotiation with the team? Status pro quo has not worked and isnt magically going to work again. Cubs outfield hit below .200 against southpaws and an OBP of around .300 (off the top of my head) KK doesnt hit lefties (doesnt really hit anyone) well. Signed for $1.4MM prior to NT deadline, Daniel Bard (5.103) $4.8MM. Signed for $1.025MM prior to NT deadline, Tyler Duffey (5.074) $3.7MM. As I mentioned on Twitter last week, the 80% request, if in effect this offseason, would mean changing the current Super Two cutoff from 2.116 (two years and 116 days of MLB service) to 2.028. Sanchez will get a minor raise. And Im not so sure Kris Bryant isnt broken? Im curious how the Cubs will address the offseason, mini-rebuild or attempt to tweak the roster and compete.
Why I would be interested in him is because he profiles more as a reliever than a starter and is still a couple years away to be polished enough to pitch in relief. such as Riley Thompson and Abbott. Whit Merrifield for Marquez? getting a guy like Merrifield, making what he makes, allows the Cubs to improve other aspects of their game with cash, like the rotation. Thats dumping a lot of contract obligations while infusing some serious talent into the system (Baz, Morales, Edwards) or SOMETHING ELSE LIKE THIS, so the Cubs can retool a little bit. This year will push front office staffers to the limits. They also have to round out the rotation and probably add another relief pitcher with closer experience. Matt Swartz has created a model to project salaries for arbitration eligible players, which weve been publishing at MLB Trade Rumors for ten years. His struggles this year were injury related, and he was great in the playoffs. Signed for $725K prior to NT deadline, Ben Gamel (5.029) $2.9MM. The love affair with small budget teams is understandable, especially when they do well but it means jack when you do not win rings. Signed for $2MM prior to NT deadline, J.B. Wendelken (3.028) $900K. This means he would have earned a lot more than the $623,200 he did in 2018 10.7 times as much, in our estimation. Im not sure if you are being serious or if you are being sarcastic. Marquez, I mentioned as to say if we used him we could land pretty much anyone. Yairo Muoz, no Thanks for the fantastic analysis.
This website is the best for reads like this.. great work boys! Ian Happ deserves a big raise maybe 10+mil. Trade Darvish because he has a full no trade clause and has already said he will not allow a trade. Truthfully, there was so much information being thrown around while the players association and MLB were negotiating the 2020 season its impossible to know. For the blind attempting to lead the blind let me explain. A player doing better or worse than our projection isnt indicative of anything. Contreras should be extended in 2022. This winter, those involved in the process do not know how arbitration will account for the 60-game season, nor is there an agreement in place between MLB and the MLBPA on how to address it. Not in this life time. After 2021, they are going to need their prospects. Sorry about the Hoerner thing. I already addressed most but how is Kiermaier anything close to Merrfield and how does he address anything the Cubs need? Information is available on Soxprospect.com on the 40-man page. The guy simply cannot hit lefties to save his life. Thanks a lot! While obviously both sides have a specific price in mind and arent going to agree to a major discount, there could be a little bit more sway on one side or the other just in the same of getting a deal done. First, we should get an idea of how many additional players would be thrown into the arbitration system each year. I was also under the impression that no player would have draft pick compensation tied to them for 2020 but apparently, since there is a discussion on whom will get a qualifying offer, I was mistaken. Merrifield fills way too many holes and MOST people do not think Marquez is going to be anything more than a reliever. Maybe 4 prospects that no one ever heard of. What would his arb be do you think? BA .272
I like how youre always so concerned about the Yankees payroll. Teams just are not giving up the Quintana package anymore and every GM knows it. The Rays. If we want to look only at platform year stats, when Betts had 24home runs and 26 stolen bases, Manny Machado seems like a plausible comparable. This winter, due to the pandemic and 60-game MLB season, theres more uncertainty than ever with arbitration, as I explained here. Arbitration Projection Model MLBTR Originals Newsstand, By Tim Dierkes | October 15, 2020 at 10:59pm CDT. If you wanted to model out the MLBPAs 80% request further, youd have to retroactively apply it to all the players who wouldve been affected and see how much money moves toward the players in that scenario. Yes, HOF IMO and he was on the field the vast majority of the time. Thirty five million allows you to add Stroman and Doolittle and still have money left over to make additional moves. Maybe trade Bryant to the Phillies for RHP Francisco Morales and LHP Erik Miller? To get anywhere near the $8.2MM projection, Betts agents will need to hit on the fact that Betts 2016 performance nearly won him an MVP Award. As a disclaimer, I should note that our projections are not to be used as a scorecard for the agent and team on an individual player level. He Ks alot but theyve been down. And Big Z was very sporadic. He also had an exit velocity in the top 5% of baseball, a hard hit rate in the upper 15% of baseball and barrel rate in the top 25. Under the MLBPAs proposal, Lindor would have been arbitration eligible four times. No one will likely do that again. No way the Cubs trade Marquez. He has his warts (mostly control). I doubt Voit was going to challenge the single-season HR mark of 61 (yeah, I know), but he was on pace for nearly 60 HRs. Darvish has full no trade protection. I believe Aaron Judge was awarded $8M last season for his first year of arbitration. Nick Pivetta, What Ive read that was agreed upon was that 2021 arbitration salaries wont be used as precedent for future arbitration salaries. Hearings run throughout the first three weeks of February. I assume hell almost assuredly be a DFA, so likely moot. The Padres hope to extend Tatis.. what is that extension going to look like? I mean the guy won ROY and MVP so he hadnt just forgotten how to play the game! Our arbitration projections are created as a tool for our readers to get a general idea of a teams payroll situation. Im just not sure in Schwarbers case, the risk vs. reward of a trade is a viable trade off. The issue is, the Cubs are not going to get much in return. The service time figures below are official. Pairing him in front of Baez would allow Baez to do what he does best, hit fastballs and hanging sliders. Dylan Covey, 1.) For players actual arbitration salaries, check out our tracker here. The official MLB minimum is not yet known, but were using $508K. Even if he had a disappointing year with starting slow and then his injury, SD is going to 100% pony up the $8M to keep him because thats a better alternative than anything else they have for LF and if he performs like his 2019 self theres a ton of surplus value to be had.
Since a good number of these arbitration cases wont be settled by March 22, this means arb hearings will stretch into the actual regular season, which is now set to begin on April 7. Maybe Merrifield for a non rank prospect. Method 3:For non-first-time eligibles, finds the raise theyd get in a 162 game season, then gives them 37% of that raise, Keynan Middleton $1.0MM / $1.1MM / $900K, Shohei Ohtani $2.1MM / $3.0MM / $2.1MM (using hitter model), Hansel Robles $3.85MM / $4.1MM / $3.9MM, Carlos Correa $8.0MM / $10.2MM / $8.8MM, Lance McCullers Jr. $4.7MM / $7.0MM / $5.2MM, Frankie Montas $1.6MM / $2.4MM / $1.6MM, Teoscar Hernandez $2.7MM / $5.3MM / $2.7MM, Ross Stripling $2.5MM / $3.7MM / $2.7MM, Dansby Swanson $4.3MM / $8.3MM / $5.0MM, Corey Knebel $5.125MM / $5.125MM / $5.125MM, Omar Narvaez $2.725MM / $3.1MM / $2.9MM, Brandon Woodruff $2.3MM / $4.5MM / $2.3MM, Harrison Bader $1.2MM / $1.7MM / $1.2MM, Albert Almora Jr. $1.575MM / $1.575MM / $1.575MM, Javier Baez $10.0MM / $11.9MM / $10.7MM, Kris Bryant $18.6MM / $18.6MM / $18.6MM, Victor Caratini $1.2MM / $1.6MM / $1.2MM, Willson Contreras $5.0MM / $7.4MM / $5.6MM, Kyle Schwarber $7.01MM / $9.3MM / $7.9MM, Junior Guerra $2.7MM / $3.3MM / $2.8MM, Scott Alexander $1.0MM / $1.2MM / $1.0MM, Austin Barnes $1.4MM / $1.7MM / $1.3MM, Cody Bellinger $11.5MM / $15.9MM / $13.1MM, Walker Buehler $2.3MM / $3.1MM / $2.3MM, Corey Seager $9.3MM / $15.0MM / $10.4MM, Daniel Robertson $1.2MM / $1.3MM / $1.1MM, Tyler Anderson $2.4MM / $4.3MM / $3.7MM, Alex Dickerson $2.0MM / $3.3MM / $1.8MM, Donovan Solano $2.2MM / $3.8MM / $2.3MM, Delino DeShields $2.0MM / $2.4MM / $2.1MM, Francisco Lindor $17.5MM / $21.5MM / $19.0MM, Jesus Aguilar $3.6MM / $6.1MM / $3.9MM, Brian Anderson $2.2MM / $4.3MM / $2.2MM, Garrett Cooper $1.5MM / $2.2MM / $1.5MM, Richard Bleier $1.1MM / $1.5MM / $1.1MM, Guillermo Heredia $1.4MM / $1.5MM /$1.3MM, Michael Conforto $9.0MM /$13.6MM / $10.1MM, Robert Gsellman $1.2MM / $1.4MM / $1.3MM, Noah Syndergaard $9.7MM / $9.7MM / $9.7MM, Hanser Alberto $2.3MM / $4.1MM / $2.6MM, Anthony Santander $1.7MM / $3.0MM / $1.7MM, Pedro Severino $1.4MM / $2.3MM / $1.4MM, Dinelson Lamet $2.3MM / $4.6MM / $2.5MM, Seranthony Dominguez $900K / $900K / $900K, Vince Velasquez $3.8MM / $4.8MM / $4.0MM, Richard Rodriguez $1.1MM / $1.7MM / $1.1MM, Jacob Stallings $1.0MM / $1.4MM / $1.0MM, Jameson Taillon $2.3MM / $2.3MM / $2.3MM, Trevor Williams $3.2MM / $4.6MM / $3.5MM, Isiah Kiner-Falefa $1.2MM / $2.3MM / $1.2MM, Rafael Montero $1.4MM / $2.5MM / $1.4MM, Hunter Renfroe $3.6MM / $4.3MM / $3.7MM, Ryan Yarbrough $2.2MM / $3.6MM / $2.2MM, Kevin Plawecki $1.6MM / $2.0MM / $1.3MM, Eduardo Rodriguez $8.3MM / $8.3MM / $8.3MM, Michael Lorenzen $3.8MM / $4.4MM / $4.0MM, Robert Stephenson $600K / $600K / $600K, Archie Bradley $4.3MM / $5.7MM / $4.7MM, Carlos Estevez $1.5MM / $2.3MM / $1.5MM, Chi Chi Gonzalez $1.2MM / $1.2MM / $1.2MM, Antonio Senzatela $2.2MM / $4.9MM / $2.2MM, Adalberto Mondesi $2.1MM / $3.8MM / $2.1MM, Jeimer Candelario $1.7MM / $3.3MM / $1.7MM, Michael Fulmer $2.8MM / $3.2MM / $2.9MM, Eddie Rosario $8.6MM / $12.9MM / $9.6MM, Reynaldo Lopez $1.7MM / $2.2MM / $1.7MM, Jordan Montgomery $1.2MM / $2.0MM / $1.3MM, Gleyber Torres $2.5MM / $3.4MM / $2.5MM, Giovanny Urshela $3.5MM / $5.2MM / $3.5MM.
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